Military necessity must prevail over mere logic-chopping, hubristic indulgence....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://bellofchurch.blogspot.com/201...-defended.html

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Military Necessity Must Prevail, Hence Simplicity
(Apollonian, 30 Dec 15)

Yes, I think there's a difficulty here for theology, perhaps, possibly (see below-copied). But to heed and get to the philosophic/theologic core of the literature, we should remember the basic inspiration, Christ = truth, (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) which then upholds the Aristotelian, objective, hence deterministic reality, necessary criterion/premise for such truth (= Christ).

Christ vs. Pharisees is parallel to Aristotle vs. Plato. Objective vs. subjective; reason vs. mysticism.

So to follow fm this, human is willful, hence subject to HUBRIS, sinful and requiring grace fm God--and this brings up huge problem for Christ, though not Mary. "Sinful" may mean "mortal" sin, so it could hold that Mary and Christ were "sinless" in that way. For HOW could Christ, who's God, be hubristic or needing grace?--impossible, inconceivable.

But Christ may have committed venial sin for his enthusiastic beating and whipping of the money-changers at the Temple--IF it was "enthusiastic."

For that basic philosophic/theologic CORE to Christianity (Christ = truth) is what's most important and must be preserved and given precedence--thus Mary being sinless can easily be conceded, but it doesn't require too intensive defense as it runs-up against determinism (absolute cause-effect).

Problem for Christianity is in times of peace it tends to get elaborate and complex, thus engendering confusion, thus breeding dis-unity, which isn't necessarily bad--except in times of urgency as present, satanism raging and ravaging openly as we see now in hip-hop music and other places too (professional wrestling, for example, of all places).

Another problem is the "Vatican" (and Jesuits) pretending they're the Church, or that they must be upheld for any reason or purpose--they're just a bunch of corrupt homosexuals and perverts who ought to be dealt with in summary fashion.

Thus the sort of extended logical sort of reasoning as presented here for Mary's "necessary" sinlessness is questionable and dangerous. For humanity is necessarily sinful, as I note and (I trust) St.s Paul and Augustine affirm. For military purposes, simplicity is best, easiest.

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Liberty Bell December 30, 2015 at 2:11 PM

You give a second objection, according to which you seem to argue as follows.

A. "[H]umans are sinners, necessarily, by nature...".
B. Mary was human.
C. Therefore, Mary was a sinner, necessarily, by nature.

But *are* human beings "sinners, necessarily, by nature..."?

For any "nature," a property that is essential (or necessary) for that nature is one that, if it is lacked, disqualifies an entity from possessing that nature. If a property is necessary for being human, then an entity lacking that property cannot count as human.

If premise A. is correct, then it is necessary to be a sinner, in this sense, in order to count as a human.

One problem with this, from the point of view of historic Christianity, is that if it is correct, then Jesus could not have been a human unless he was a sinner also.

A. "[H]umans are sinners, necessarily, by nature...".
D. Jesus was [truly] human.
E. Therefore, Jesus was a sinner, necessarily, by nature.

According to received Christology - whether Protestant or Catholic - E. is false. Jesus was sinless.

But E. follows from A. and D. Therefore, either A. or D. must be rejected. If we are to hold that Jesus was truly human, then we must reject A.

Here I’ll follow philosopher Thomas Morris and distinguish between *common human properties* and *necessary human properties*.

Consider "being born on the earth." It seems that every human who has ever lived has had this property. But is it *necessary* for being human? Imagine a couple giving birth to a child on Mars. Would that child not be human because she did not have the property - which every other human who had ever lived before had - of "being born on the earth"? I suggest that the answer is "no."

This shows that some properties can be exemplified by all entities with a particular nature without being *necessary* for that nature.

Christians have held that Jesus was human even though he did not exemplify the property "being a sinner." If this is possible, then "being a sinner" cannot be necessary for being human.

It is obvious that "being a sinner" is *common* property for human beings to have. But if there can be found a single, bona fide human who did not exemplify it, then it is not a necessary property for human-ness. All Christians agree that Jesus was a bona fide human who lacked the property "being a sinner." It follows, then, that "being a sinner" is not necessary for being human. It is possible to exist without it.

Catholics just think that we have two exceptions: Jesus, who was necessarily sinless; and Mary, who was contingently sinless.

Psycho anti-Christ analyzed, rebutted....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form

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JR: A Psycho, Specifically Schizoid
(Apollonian, 30 Dec 15)

JR: U're undoubtedly psychotic, but specifically I'd pt.-out ur problem w. integration of abstracts w. concretes--which demonstrates schizoid or schizo-typal problem--look it up.

For u see, generalizations must be founded in particular details--for which u have greatest difficulty. And I specifically note ur above [see just below-copied] assertion,

"It isn't only "Jews" that are committing the crimes against us. Neo-cons that don't identify as Jews is evidence of that - as you continuously ignore and try to "explain" away - but never seem to get there."

And I KNOW I've actually gone into quite some detail expositing the relation of gentiles w. Jews NUMEROUS times, right here on ur blog in the comments pages.

Pt. then is if u want to maintain ur above-quoted generalization u need to demonstrate w. actual details, which u don't even bother doing, and which I note u never bothered doing even at the particular times when I made my particular arguments in ur particular blogs.

Such then is the nature of ur lying and psychosis, buddy. There are other instances of this schizoid treatment u give topics and subject-matter, for instance, regarding Christianity.

One must wonder HOW it is u imagine u're "American"--for u know very little about America or USA for history, just dropping names, like that of Jefferson, sometimes, we notice (a). (b) U want to pretend LAW is opposed to Christianity. (c) U oppose Christianity but see nothing peculiar about Jews.

Yet u want to insist and pretend u're "creative," ho ho ho oho. But JR, u need urgently to give urself a rest and to start doing some GENUINE thinking about things. U're not "American" just because u say so, and u don't demonstrate any healthy practice of American virtue, hypocritically citing Bill of Rights while trashing the culture upon which it necessarily is founded. U're no "American."

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Anonymous Dec 29, 2015, 8:31:00 AM

Apsterian,
I have been self employed in the past and understand what it means to buy low and sell high.
But perhaps I must parade about something that has meaning like degrees or something so people will "believe" me.
I know it cause i've done it and I'm doing it again.
AS far as Christianity - who needs it if all it produces is hatred? If my behavior seems "Jewish" to you than so be it - maybe Jews aren't so bad after all.
Also - creativity doesn't come with references. As a creative person - I tend more toward leadership - not rehashing the past all of the time.
Sometimes we have to use our own noodles and not rely on others to do our thinking for us.

It isn't only "Jews" that are committing the crimes against us. Neo-cons that don't identify as Jews is evidence of that - as you continuously ignore and try to "explain" away - but never seem to get there.

So Apsterian, who do you reference when you draw a picture to prove that it has value?

JR


Anonymous Dec 29, 2015, 8:33:00 AM

Apsterian,
Also I should mention that yes, although I presently live like a pig that is because I've been robbed by bankers who confiscated my properties while I was recovering from surgery - which can take a little while.
If this ****hole is what America has to offer then I think it is appropriate to report on it whether you find that appealing or not.
Sometimes looking at ourselves in the mirror isn't so much fun.
This town and living quarters are a ****ing embarrassment in a "superpower." That's for sure.
All the Christians and Bibles haven't seemed to fix that - as you seem to think magically happens.
Creativity doesn't come with references Apsterian.
JR

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JR: Pretends/Insists Persistent Lies, Lying Is "Creativity"
(Apollonian, 29 Dec 15)

JR: All anyone has to do is to take and examine ur statements, but I can begin by noting simply that LYING IS NOT NOT NOT "CREATIVITY," no matter what u may say.

Let's begin fm the top:

"AS far as Christianity - who needs it if all it produces is hatred? If my behavior seems "Jewish" to you than so be it - maybe Jews aren't so bad after all."

This (ur quote just above) is just Jew-serving lies and prop. on a couple of levels, but it proves U'RE NOT NOT NOT AMERICAN. And I've dealt before w. these of ur notions which u repeat here, u having nothing to say but to merely continue repeating ur brainless, Jew-serving lies, pretending u're "American." U're NOT NOT NOT NOT "American," buddy. U're just a psycho, that's all, whatever else u may think u are.

"Also - creativity doesn't come with references." This is just (a) assertion without any substantiation or definition. U may be a liar, but lying isn't "creativity," rather mere denying reality. (b) Do have any examples of ur "creativity"?--I don't know of any--just the same old Jew-serving lies we've seen before.

"Sometimes we have to use our own noodles and not rely on others to do our thinking for us." U haven't demonstrated any "thinking," just repeating same old Jew-serving lies.

"It isn't only "Jews" that are committing the crimes against us. Neo-cons that don't identify as Jews is evidence of that - as you continuously ignore and try to "explain" away - but never seem to get there."

Just (fm above quote) more lies, JR, and u're excellent example of a Jew-serving, Jew-sympathizing, anti-Christ traitor and enemy of US, spouting ur Jew-serving, Jewwy lies, like about Christianity and history of Christian USA.

"So Apsterian, who do you reference when you draw a picture to prove that it has value?"

Aren't u just begging question?--presuming to this "value"?--WHAT "value"? U're just an anti-Christ, anti-American liar for Jews.

JR: u're truly nutty, w. capital "N," buddy, and I guess u're determined to just barrel on w. ur lies and lying. But it's important to remind u, U'RE NOT NOT NOT NOT AN "AMERICAN," no matter what else u might say. And u're not "creative," just psychotic.

Queer shill for ZOG/Obola is riding-high at the moment, but is due for a fall, soon enough....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015...l#comment-form

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Smug, Smarmy, Queer Psycho Stevie, Liar/Shill For ZOG/Obola Soon To Taking Big Fall--Go Boom! Ho Ho Ho
(Apollonian, 28 Dec 15)

Psycho stevie, schizoid, queer "neuro-scientist," liar/shill for ZOG/Obola, pushing queer agenda, u lie again, sucker--which lots of people understand, don't doubt, u smarmy little punk scum.

Observe ur statement above, "...he cites already debunked evidence like memorial sites being created prior to the shooting...."

But psycho stevie the schizoid "neuro-scientist," u say "debunked," when all it is is just more lying on ur part. For example, u pt. out that the sites in question were mere replacements of the original entries--BUT U DON'T KNOW THIS, u only speculating that it COULD BE. And u then call this lying and speculating "debunking," ho ho ho ho ho, (a).

(b) And they're not merely "memorial" sites, u lying little queer shill scum, they were charity sites soliciting donations, and these are confirmed, without any doubt, as was Robbie Parker's, for one, which was up even before dear little Robbie could verify it was his little child who was one of the victims.

Can u "debunk" fact Malloy lied to Wolfgang about being spoken to?--that Monte Frank illegally dis-missed Wolfgang's witnesses and illegally with-held evidence?--that Newtown required demo workers to sign non-disclosure statements?--that lots of other info is being illegally with-held?--that dash-cam vids of Newtown cops were illegally tampered with?--that one of the kids who sang at the 2013 Super Bowl has been positively ID'd as one of the victim kids?--that fictional "Adam" was marked dead on 13th, a day before the fictional "shootings"?

U're just a liar, psycho stevie, known and proven, who also says lots of other stupid crap, like sense-perception is "un-reliable," etc.

U're riding-high now u little queer filth, but US Dollar is collapsing, and that's not good for u, sucker--which u're gonna find-out soon, hoho ho ho ho ho ho ho

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Steve12 December 28, 2015 at 9:11 AM

In Tracy's response to the letter form FAU, he cites already debunked evidence like memorial sites being created prior to the shooting and the "faked death certificate" nonsense.

When he continues to make these claims without taking on the rebuttals, that's denialism.

Denialism has no place at a University. FAU is well within their rights to fire his ass, and I'm glad they did.

U of M should also strip Fetzer of his emeritus status (and any pension associated with it) for the very same reason. We cannot accept an Academy of Lies, where truth is whatever you wish it to be.

I am not completely insensitive to Tracy's plight though. I hope he finds a job cleaning toilets or shoveling manure. In fact, I think he's well-qualified for employment in any of the **** related industries.

USA was created effectively Christian, the states, many of them, officially Christian, protected by Constitution fm fed. gov....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form

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JR: Horribly Mis-Conceived, As Usual
(Apollonian, 27 Dec 15)

Good gravy, JR, but do u ever stop to think just how mis-conceived u really, truly are? We note u write above,

"...because one of the things that was always to differentiate America from all other nations was our religious tolerance - and the fact that no religion could get an upper hand and start imposing their belief system on the rest of us that don't want it."

And the question arises, WHERE DO U GET THIS CRAP?--do u just make it up in ur amazing mind?

I do believe u DO, very much, just MAKE STUFF UP out of ur wishful thinking. Why don't u just do simplest, basic research, buddy?

Don't forget, original US Constitution only applied against the general fed gov.--it was protection of the states and people against the fed. gov.

Many of the states had official state religions, to which established churches rec'd money fm taxes collected by the state--look it up. See http://undergod.procon.org/view.reso...ourceID=000069

Const. protected the states and state churches AGAINST the feds making their own national or state religion. But many of the states had their own established churches, as I noted.

It was always understood that the states and people making up USA were Christian, but they differed regarding particular churches, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Congregationalist, etc.--these were left up to the states, explicitly denied to the general fed. gov. by Const.

JR, u are sadly mis-conceived as to religion, etc., and u urgently need to do some soul-searching, buddy--what is wrong w. u that u have to LIE LIE LIE LIE like u do?--u must be a Jew, the way u love to lie about religion. There's un-doubtedly something going-on within ur amazing mentality.

USA is and always was Christian, regardless particular church denomination, made by Christians for Christians, PERIOD. US Constitution was made by Christians, for Christians, PERIOD. US and US Const. are products of Christianity, Christian culture of the West in general.

U need to get real, start to facing the truth and the facts of reality, buddy. Jews didn't make USA--they had NOTHING to do w. it--only Christians, and no one else, made USA.

Jew S A is totally owned by Jews--that's why it's called "Jew" S A....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form

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WHY Can't JR Figure-Out Mooooslims Don't Belong In USA?
(Apollonian, 26 Dec 15)

JR: u just can't get-over ur political-correct satanism, can u? No wonder u relate w. Jews--there's no hate in u for kikes, right? Ho ho ho ho ho

It's those gosh-darn Israelis, right?--and only a few of them, perhaps, not all kikes, right?

And what's w. Trump for his attitude for the Mooooslims, eh?--not politically-correct, right?

JR: u can't figure-out this is Christian country, made by Christians, for Christians--NOT PEOPLE LIKE U, buddy, u just a recipient of charity, un-fortunately. So naturally, u want to lobby for Mooooslims, right?--having them here intimidating the Christians makes u feel more comfortable, right?--safer and more secure so u can continue to spew ur holier-than-thou, Jew-friendly satanism, right?

See JR: due to US Federal Reserve Bank Jew S A is TOTALLY OWNED BY KIKES--u can't even begin to running for office without paying obeisance to that satanic filth. So that's why Trump (AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO RUNS FOR OFFICE) sucks-up to kikes (a), and (b) reason he knocks Moooslims is THEY DON'T BELONG HERE, FOOL (and neither do u).

See JR: U'RE NOT INTERESTED in anything other than playing politically-correct and Jew-friendly, even if u resent some things about Israel. Like typical satanist and Jews, u want to pretend u're (a) "smart," like kikes, and (b) at same time, also, "moral"--that's essence of politically-correct, being both "smart" and "moral," ho ho ho ho ho ho.

So Trump being against Mooooslims is both (a) OBLIGATORY for sake of kikes, going-along w. the 9/11 "narrative" put-out by kikes.

(b) BUT ALSO, it makes sense, as Mooooooslims have no business being here--which is AMAZING u can't figure that out.

Never forget: satanists, Jews make use of political-correct dupes mouthing cliche's....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form

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JR: A Child Who Just Wants To Ignore Reality, Feel Good
(Apollonian, 23 Dec 15)

JR continues to lie (see below-copied). For Christianity is a philosophic system, and there are, indeed, false and phony Christians--JUST AS I NOTED, AND U THEN DENIED, regarding "distinctions," which u say don't exist.

"Extra-judicial murder"?--isn't that what is war?--and who has been conducting it?--u Jew-friendly satanists, right? Though even war requires certain Congressional formalities, according to Constitution which is ignored--BY satanists led by JEWS.


Then u talk about ""Jews" who are somehow "all bad."" And I've explained many many many many many times how and why, but u just ignore reality--THAT'S UR PROBLEM, buddy, not anyone else's.

And I noted also humanity is heavily engaged in war--WAR--against satanism, Jews the leaders, in the great scheme of things, so it's necessary to make use of WHOLE-SALE methods, as usual and typical in WAR.

And as I noted, u're adamant in ur religious-style insistence/obsession for denying the obvious facts of reality regarding the general satanism, and then specifically regarding Jews, subjectivism, etc.

And don't doubt I DO absolutely endorse "day in court" idea--which rational creatures must follow, simply as matter of humanity. Fact remains, however, humanity, and people of West and Jew S A are at war--WAR.

Think of it: I do my duty, defining terms and outlining the basic ideas, so u have no real complaint against me--and when u're confronted for what u stand for, u just invoke generalities, e.g., that u want Bill of Rights, but don't care about the necessary foundation, culturally and psychologically. U just want to feel good that u're nice to kikes.

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Anonymous Dec 23, 2015, 8:42:00 AM

Apsterian says:
"U JR, are PERFECT example of the satanic problem, pushing cognitive dissonance and political correctness, insisting there are "good Jews," and there are many more like u--we cannot tolerate it--and in the midst of catastrophe u are extremely dangerous."

Apsterian,
Perhaps you are right and I am wrong - but to use your logic there are no bad Christians - they are all somehow "good" because they are not "Jews" who are somehow "all bad." Or do you mean that we will make distinctions for Christians as to who is right and who is wrong but not Jews?
This is why I support a day in court for everybody - but I also know that is idealistic and won't happen.
Our government folks are lorded over by these psychopaths who allow mass murder and use their agencies and bureaus etc... to cover up high crimes rather than putting away those undermining our Bill of Rights by scaring everybody into agreeing to anything - including torture and extrajudicial murder.
JR

Place real battle btwn Jew lies and Christian truth is by way of "Judeo-Christianity," front for the Jews against real Christianity....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form

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"Judeo-Christianity" Is Precisely The Jew satanist Tool Used Against Real Christianity
(Apollonian, 19 Dec 2015)

JR: Christians, real ones, who are anti-semites, don't own or control diddly in "Bible belt" or anywhere. All organized, establishment Christian institutes are controlled by Jews and/or Judeo-Christians (JCs--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo on JCs).

And this is true (about JCs) because and as direct result of the Jew control over banking, specifically central-banking by which they legally COUNTERFEIT the "money supply," printing-up currency (not real money) practically at will. See Mises.org and RealityZone.com for expo on central-banking.

U're right and I agree all the "terror" events are false-flags and psy-ops totally perpetrated by ZOG. It's now simple matter of record that ISIS is totally creature/creation of ZOG. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIkUpOQMpQ

But situation surely isn't helped by bringing-in yet more Moooslims, simply building-up and increasing the Balkanization process.

And yes, Trump pushes exact same Jew-serving, Jew-friendly prop. and lies as ALL the other candidates, without any exceptions, again, due to the sad and tragic situation regarding Jew absolute control over nation's finances.

Pt. is Trump OPPOSES the Jews' attempts (though he doesn't name the Jews, of course--no one can) to continue the Balkanization, invasion, and infestation of the country w. aliens and foreigners, esp. in way of Moooslims.

But again, problem is the rampant and advancing satanism which continues as the real Christianity, hence anti-semitism, recedes.

U're not grasping the tremendous distinction and diff. btwn the real Christianity, hence anti-semitism, and the utterly corrupted and perverse JC version, which is now ruling, controlling, and making way for satanist irrationalism, etc., satanism now rampant and actively destroying things, not only Christianity.

"Stevie," psycho schizoid queer, lying "neuro-scientist," who lies/shills for ZOG/Obola, has difficulty w. objective reality....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015...94409377398152

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Stevie: Lying Liar, Shill For ZOG/Obola--AGAIN
(Apollonian, 18 Dec 15)

Stevie: u're a liar (see below-copied by stevie), once again, as usual, psycho schizoid queer "neuro-scientist," lying/shilling for ZOG criminals.

U haven't "shown" diddley-squat, little lying psycho schizoid queer "neuro-scientist" who says sense-perception is "un-reliable," and that this is "proven," ho ho ho ho (thus demonstrating his total incompetence for science which requires a means of verifying theories and conclusions, hence the necessarily axiomatic assumption of validity of senses).

"Authenticity and origin" of the photos in question, showing un-broken class-room windows and Carver lounging about in civvies and tenny-shoes is not an issue, though psycho schizoid stevie the queer "neuro-scientist" pretends, insists, wishes, and lies, saying it is.

See stevie, lying little psycho schizoid "neuro-scientist," there's the objective truth (a), and which (b) enough people realize and understand about u, buddy, ho ho ho hoho.

And going on the radio show wouldn't improve things for u, would it? In fact, it would make it worse, wouldn't it? Ho ho ho ho ho

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Steve12 December 18, 2015 at 7:57 PM

"Evidence which demonstrates the hoax is EVERYTHING, beginning w. the definitive photos of un-broken class-room windows, no further explanation needed. Photo of Carver in civvies and tenny-shoes on 13th is another indisputable piece of evidence. These are definitive, and everything else fits-in, too."

But how do I knew WHEN these photos were taken? What is the SOURCE of these photos?

Why isn't reasonable to simply inquire about the authenticity and origin of these photos?

Especially when I've shown above that one of the techniques for dating these photos is invalid?

If this hoax is real, why would you all stonewall my simple questions at every turn.

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Summation For Sandy Hoax Controversy With "Stevie"
(Apollonian, 18 Dec 15)

Here's definitive summation for Sandy Hoax, ref. for which is "Nobody Died at Sandy..." Hoax, ho ho ho:

(a) When one looks at it as a whole, everything considered--EVERYTHING about the hoax comes off as phony, fakey, LIES LIES LIES LIES--all of it. And to cap it all, u have, predictably, the Jew-dominated establishment covering-up, obstructing justice, committing fraud and malfeasance.

So establishment and shill/liars like stevie, psycho schizoid queer "neuro-scientist" (ho ho ho ho), who says sense-perception is "un-reliable," this being "proven," ho ho ho ho, tells us we must simply beleeeeeeeeeeeeeeev--BUT that it isn't rational to believe in Christ, ho ho ho ho ho

(b) Evidence which demonstrates the hoax is EVERYTHING, beginning w. the definitive photos of un-broken class-room windows, no further explanation needed. Photo of Carver in civvies and tenny-shoes on 13th is another indisputable piece of evidence. These are definitive, and everything else fits-in, too.

Stevie, the psycho schizoid queer shill/liar "neuro-scientist" further wants to beleeeeeeeeeeeeeev that because he can imagine to contriving to finding something to say about any particular detail thus PROVES that it all isn't hoax, that everything is just as ZOG/Obola says, ho ho ho ho ho

Stevie the psycho has himself convinced, and that's all he cares about or needs. Ho ho ho oho ho ho

"Stevie": genius Ph.d psycho schizoid shill/liar for ZOG/Obola, ho ho ho....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015...l#comment-form

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"Stevie": Perfect Shill And Henchman For ZOG
(Apollonian, 17 Dec 15)

By golly, but by means of intensive dialectic technique we seem to have quite well dissected and analyzed this putrid homosexual insect, "stevie," psycho schizoid shill/liar for ZOG/Obola.

We find thus that "stevie" is typical product of modern edjumacation, filled and stuffed w. most moronic psycho-babble and given a degree or two, puffing the little monstrosity up, he believing now he knows stuff, ho ho ho ho ho--giving him the audacity to comment pretending to criticize consp. theorists and patriot investigators of ZOG and its frauds.

Thus "stevie" pushes ZOG lies--why?--because stevie is a dedicated, up-standing, and proud queer who seeks to advance the queer agenda of ZOG and Obola--pretty straight-forward and quite logical. So we understand stevie's motivation.

And when one examines "stevie," as for what he tells us, we find what a perfect flunky, cats-paw, and henchman he is for ZOG, ZOG not even having to pay him for all his intensive work, such a dedicated queer is our dear little stevie.

Most pathetic and troubling is this queer flunky, stevie, says he has a Ph.d degree--and is it too un-believable?--perhaps not, though we find stevie spouting alarming things while pretending he's credentialed "scientist," actually working and perhaps holding official positions, stevie insisting, for one example, that sense-perception is "un-reliable," and that there's "proof" of it, stevie even providing reference(s) to so-called papers written on the subject.

So take heed, patriots and soldiers, for ZOG/Obola's partisans, even if they aren't too bright, still sport the credentials and the psycho-babble which fills and puffs them up at least in their own eyes--they're thoroughly convicted of their "principles," such as they are, and even more sure of their moralistic up-rightness, no less than any Pharisee's. Beware, and gaze upon "stevie" w. trepidation.

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apsterian December 16, 2015 at 5:29 PM

Below-copied notes by ap, within text of stevie, capped, bracketed.

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Steve12 December 16, 2015 at 5:06 PM

"Because I actually relate to and socialize with people. [THIS IS A LIE, STEVIE: U'RE A QUEER BECAUSE U'RE ANTI-SOCIAL, ANTI-CHRIST, ANTI-REASON, ANTI-SCIENCE, DENYING VALIDITY OF SENSES, ETC. BUT I DO ACKNOWLEDGE U'RE RAGING PSYCHOPATH, AND U MIGHT WELL ACTUALLY BELIEVE U'RE SUCH SOCIOLOGIST AS U PRETEND.

"I can tell that neither is true for you. [U "CAN TELL"?--U WISH, THAT'S ALL. ONLY THING U CAN "TELL" IS I'M HONEST CHRISTIAN SOLDIER WHICH U WANT TO PRETEND, ACCORDING TO UR QUEER'S PSYCHO-PATHOLOGY IS "ANTI-SOCIAL," BUT ACTUALLY IT'S MOST SOCIABLE, MOST HONEST.]

"But don't take my word for it. [HO HO HO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT STEVIE, LITTLE PSYCHO FAGGOT SCHIZOID, HO HO HO HO]

"Go into the middle of a city, find some black folks and call then the N-word as you did above. [HOHO HO HO, BUT STEVIE, GIVEN CIRCUMSTANCES, NIGGERS ARE TRAINED BY U JEWS AND QUEERS TO HATE WHITE FOLKS AND ALL THE REST OF HUMANITY IN ANY CASE, WHETHER WE USE N-WORD OR NOT, EH? HO HO HO HO. I'D NO MORE INCITE NIGGERS THAN GOING TO ZOO AND INCITE THE BABOONS, BUDDY, HO HO HO HOH OHO. AND NIGGERS HATE QUEER FILTH LIKE URSELF, DON'T DOUBT, SUCKER, HO HO HO HO HO.]

"Maybe they'll sat that ""Racism" is loyalty to people, ancestors" as you said above." [HO HO HO HO HO--WHAT'S THE PT., STEVIE?--RACISM IS EITHER LOYALTY AS I NOTED, OR NOT, RIGHT? HO HO OHOO HO.]

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See stevie, psycho schizoid queer shill/liar for ZOG, we know u've got urself fooled, convinced, and thoroughly psyched-out, right?--that's why u live in ur own little bubble, right?--I don't deny it, ho ho ho ho ho

Moron criticizes, but fails to take into account argument of opponent--pretty dumb....

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"Goldstein": Liar Extraordinaire, Cheap Punk, Scum, Ho Ho Ho
(Apollonian, 17 Dec 15)

Goldstein, u're just a crass, stinking liar (see below-copied). And who are u, and what is ur reasoning for saying heroic consp. theorists "don't deserve" their "influence"? By what criterion does an ignorant dumbass like u pretend such influence is "outsized"? U just assert without any substantiation, stupid ass scum.

Further, Goldstein the moron, don't forget Fetzer and co. have actually produced something--which u haven't--which is their extremely credit-worthy work, "Nobody Died At Sandy Hook"--ever hrd of it? ZOG has, and they've gone to all the trouble to having it banned or suppressed, much as they could.

It's amazing u don't seem to grasp this simple fact about "Nobody Died...," which is actually quite a detailed and elaborate argument--what's ur problem, fool?

Haven't u seen the photos of the un-damaged class-room windows and Carver the med. examiner lounging about w. his cane, in his civvies and tenny-shoes? What's ur problem, Goldstein, u utter idiot?--are u blind? Sandy hoax is as good as demonstrated--do u have a counter-argument?--that's what u ought to be talking about, moron.

Get a clue Goldstein, u stinking scum, it's anyone's right to "seek to influence policy"--and Fetzer and co. have gone to the trouble to produce their grounds for this exerting of influence, u puke--they at least have something of a "leg to standing upon"; what do u have, sucker? What are u?--jealous? Ho ho ho ho ho--is all anyone needs do in face of ur brainless blathering, Goldstein.

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Emmanuel Goldstein December 17, 2015 at 4:34 AM

If you already think James Tracy sounds like a real peach, wait’ll you hear his response to Pozner’s op-ed. On his Facebook page, he dismissed the Pozners and all the Sandy Hook families as “alleged parents” and wrote about Lenny Pozner specifically, saying, “The only proof (he) has produced that Noah died in Sandy Hook is a death certificate he provided… which has been revealed as a fabrication.” The person who likely “revealed” the certificate as a fabrication — meaning he’s simply claiming it is — is a philosophy professor named James Fetzer, who’s pretty much the leading conspiracy theorist on Sandy Hook, which makes sense given that he’s also a renowned 9/11 truther and a proponent of the Kennedy assassination conspiracy. He believes the whole Sandy Hook thing was a put-on, a FEMA drill designed to trigger a clamp-down on gun rights — it was a huge success as you can plainly see — and that the families President Obama visited after the shooting and who were interviewed over and over again on CNN and such were just “crisis actors.” Because of this, he and his conspiratorial nut-job followers will likely never relent in their fight against the Sandy Hook families. They’ll continue to try to pick apart their lives looking for conclusive proof they’ve been right all this time.

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Conspiracy theorists are a serious threat to democracy these days precisely because their beliefs aren’t founded in fact and yet they seek to influence policy. What’s more, these days thanks to clowns like Alex Jones and the proliferation of social media, these people can have an outsized influence they frankly don’t deserve at all.

http://ohhword.com/2015/12/14/three-...ever-happened/

Int. rates raised whopping .25 %, risks popping stock-market bubble, economic collapse....

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Interest Rates Raised, Show-Down Time
(Apollonian, 16 Dec 15)

Yeah, it's "serious" (see below-copied), but no more serious than Sandy hoax or any of the other psy-ops and false-flags we've had.

ZOG is LOSING very badly the info war, as we see herein, these comments pages for Fetzer's blog, stevie the queer psycho schizoid shill/liar for ZOG/Obola just blatantly lying his dumb little behind, asserting and declaring rather desperately and hysterically, ho ho ho ho.

For what will determine things historic, sociologic, and even economic is the monetary situation, US Federal Reserve Bank today hiking int. rates which threatens to bust the bubble ZOG has been blowing for inflation and spending.

ZOG and Jew world order just now, over past few days and weeks, have been badly exposed for being behind ISIS--like we know they were behind the Sandy hoax psy-ops, and stevie here trying to push his "spin," ho ho ho ho ho, quite pathetic, everything considered.

Question now is what to do, and patriots must simply forge onwards w. Christian anti-semitism and anti-satanism as they go together, satanism being extreme subjectivism, Jews being the masters as they're most collectivist, most organized and "connected," obviously.

More practically, we need states-rights, nullification and perhaps even secession--full implementation and assertion of Constitutional principles. Further, we need real, commodity money, gold and silver.

These foregoing then are the general and more specific things gov. and patriots need to do, and people like stevie, psycho schizoid queer, shill and liar for satanic, mass-murdering ZOG needs to be prosecuted for his crimes of treason and fraud, penalty for treason being grim thing, but stevie deserves fullest consequences applied, the little scummy puke. Let there be none to little mercy as we need to make examples of these stinking, scummy filth.

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Anonymous December 16, 2015 at 7:29 PM

http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/12/10...ia-contractor/

Go to above link [proper link, above, supplied by editor], scroll down [not necessary if u hit above link] to article on Craft International Mercenaries; listen to video of Steve Kelly on San Bernardino false flag. Serious stuff folks.

Rebekah Roth and the HEART of conspiracy--what it's REALLY all about: central-banking....

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Failure To See To The Heart Of The Conspiratorial Matter, Central-Banking
(Apollonian, 12 Dec 15)

No no no no no--u're totally missing it (see below-copied). Rebekah emphasizes the FTS (flight termination)--ZOG's story is therefore necessarily a lie, and Rebekah smashes it totally. So much for "the planes."

Further, another thing u're missing is she pt.s out the Federal Reserve Bank (legalized COUNTERFEITING)--this is a big no no as it's their PRIMARY practical weapon/instrument--aside fm exposing or naming the kikes which they never like, though it's true they WILL, when necessary, play good-kike, bad-kike, "leftist vs. rightist," ho ho hoo ho

And yes, Rebekah does indeed say there are "good" kikes, but that's because she practically has to, I guess, so few grasping there are no, as there could be no "good" satanists or Christ-killers.

So ur argument fails, buddy--the central-banking scam is ZOG's "Achilles heel," and they NEVER want that getting-out--that's why Fetzer's such a complete dumb**** moron, ho ho ho ho--imagine, a so-called "philosophic" and he REFUSES to see the forest, preferring to be lost among the trees like a moron, spouting and reciting all those long, idiotic listings of details. I told the stupid **** to get someone on his show to tell him about central-banking scam, and WHAT IS "money."

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Skies SS December 12, 2015 at 3:42 AM

Apsterian, at this point there's no denying Rebekah is Monika and vice versa. I myself gave her the benefit of doubt until harder evidence emerged. There's just no denying the audio files are conclusive.

I checked the clips on YT and noticed the recordings are only a year old based on the upload date. And I take it the snake oil wasn't selling very well either.

Indeed, "Rebekah" only emerged in 2014. Her objective is to restore the fictional planes as evident by her own YT channel which has a big airliner as the background image.

And we know she's in Langley, and since she has assumed multiple fictional identities, and since it is highly unlikely the U.S government could be unaware of such fraudulent activities - we can reasonably infer Rebekah is CIA. And no bonafide flight attendant would say that civilian airliners don't appear on radar.

So what if she points to Jewish involvement? She only does so to lend herself authenticity, and apparently did so by stealing others' research. In any case, disinformation is mixing some truth with lies to make the lies more believable.

Jewwy liars never quit lying, but the strategic lies need to be grasped....

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"Godsend": Jewwy Lying Liar Who Lies For His Masters, Jews
(Apollonian, 11 Dec 15)

"Godsend," the Jewwy lying liar who lies lies lies for Jews, pretending (see below-copied) there are "good" kikes like there are good psychopaths has a problem: WHY THEN DO KIKES CALL THEMSELVES "JEWS"?--it must be because they're loyal to kikes and their Talmudic midrash which gloats over killing of Christ (= Truth, Gosp. JOHN 14:6).

NO DECENT PERSON CALLS himself Jew, and isn't it the responsibility of people and Jews to find-out what word, "Jew" denotes?--follower of anti-Christ Talmud.

FM the liar: "For the most part, they [Jews] have no idea what the Talmud contains and could care less." Then isn't it stupid to call oneself "Jew"?--why do they do this?

"Godsend": u're a lying liar who lies and probably a Jew urself, u're such a liar.

And u make no sense, pretending "satanists" are only zionists--there's lots of non-zionist satanists, moron.

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GodSend December 11, 2015 at 3:39 PM

I've met many Jews in my life and some are among my closest and most trusted friends and have been for a lifetime. To my knowledge, NONE have sacrificed or eaten gentile babies, killed gentiles, raped gentile women, abused gentiles in any way or refer to them as "cattle". NONE claim or believe that Jesus is boiling in his excrement in Hell, either. For the most part, they have no idea what the Talmud contains and could care less. They are mostly as loving, kind, generous and intelligent as the gentiles I know. My guess is that only a handful of rabid rabbis actually believe and secretly follow (some of) the teachings of the Talmud. Jews (as a group) are victimized by Zionists more than anyone else! Only a moronic baboon actually believes that most Jews follow the Talmud and constantly spews irrational hatred of all Jews. In any case, Zionists (Satanists - NOT Jews) are the cause of most of the turmoil in the world! A "Zionist Jew" is an oxymoron because NOONE can worship Satan and Yahweh at the same time! Zionists worship Satan (in the Synagogue of Satan) - NOT Yahweh! Israel is not the Homeland of the Jewish People but the Homeland of Zionist SLIMEBALL Satanists!

"What comes out of his mouth defiles a man". Every time you open your mouth, Apster, you defile yourself and PROVE that you are not a follower of Jesus the Christ but a hate-filled and moronic follower of the Devil!

Jew S A presently on brink of serious, catastrophic cultural/economic collapse, grave danger of war....

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Becky Least Of Problems In Scheme Of Things
(Apollonian, 10 Dec 15)

Ok, well she's (regarding Rebekah Roth) a riddle wrapped in an enigma, rolled-up within a puzzle--or something like that, according to Churchill. She still tells us neat things about Dan Lewin, Barb Olson, and others.

Sometimes I imagine it's Israeli Jews vs. the leftist Jews of world gov., CIA Jews vs. MOSSAD. But they're killing us six ways to Sunday, w. GMOs and glyphosates, poisons (bis-phenols) in the plastics and can-food linings, HFCS, MSG, fluoride in water supplies, toxic vaccines, chem-trail poisons, and lethal electro-magnetic waves/radiation, not to mention Fukushima killing the Pac. ocean, and even just legal and poison prescription drugs, etc. Looks like they're speeding things up in Syria and Ukraine.

People gotta realize satanism (extreme subjectivism) dominates the culture--how will they/we unify? I'm afraid some sad things have to happen w. heavy casualties before people start to begin to getting serious about stuff.

Here in Jew S A, all politicians are owned by Jews, especially Israelis--only way to get that money, but really currency, as money has to be gold/silver.

Clever thing Jews are doing lately is flooding West w. Muslims and promoting racial strife, esp. in way of demonizing such as Trump--though it isn't working, the people sticking w. Trump--almost as if it's done deliberately to BUILD Trump's support--cognitive dissonance.

So, long as Becky pt.s out the central-banking scam, I don't see that she does any real harm, regardless what else she says, central-banking being their (satanist) main/primary practical/concrete weapon/instrument.

Here in Jew S A, we need desperately to strike-back against big-bro. by way of states-rights and nullification of un-Constitutional laws. Obola could/should be impeached for all his many criminal acts and treason--everyone must know he built ISIS, though so did Bush before him, building al Qaeda.

Observe how satanism rules and marches onwards so assuredly, queers telling everyone what to do, mimicking their Jew leaders/masters. Christianity used to be people's bulwark against this putrid, blatant, overt satanism spitting in people's face.

People don't realize horrific economic collapse and shock we're in for soon, soon, all too soon--prices will sky-rocket, welfare system will break-down--this is all CERTAIN, done-deal--that's why they seriously want war.

Good luck to people in Australia; it will be worst of all in Jew S A though, US Dollar having greater distance to going down, losing value. At least people here are buying guns like crazy--they're not totally stupid.

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DreadnoughtDecember 10, 2015 at 3:06 AM

Jimmy Fetzer has two of the planes recorded as miles from Pentagon and Shankville AFTER the supposed impacts and the two tower planes not even in the sky. She has all four going to an airfield, the passengers and crew all murdered and then the planes? What? Flown into the targets? She is a trope combination of Daphne Du Maurier's Rebecca and Philip Roth's "Defender of the Faith". Rebecca has no named heroine narrator and a dead main character (Rebecca) the main character doesn't exist. Defender of the Faith (by Philip Roth) is about one Jew forcing another to accept responsibility in life. This a National Clandestine service English major with no imagination thinking too hard in the shower and coming up with a double trope character. We were stupid not to see any of this cliched artifice before. She wrote two FICTIONS. I asked for her consent to check that she worked for American Airlines resume and got nothing. It's not entirely unbelievable and in any case why would she change her name? She has a Jewish name and claims to be Christian? I asked for her consent to check that she worked for American Airlines resume and got nothing.Also, I sent her several emails which got strange responses. Email me if you want them Ap. I did not disclose those emails in the show. I know of one thing she did wrong throughout and I wanted to face her with it but she would not come on the show. I have not disclosed that and will not until she claims she is genuine. I have listened to as many interviews with her as I could find and the error is repeated consistently. She works from a script.I have a soundtrack of her first radio show episode called phix your health. I think from Hawaii. She is introduced as Monica Gainor or Gaynor. You can hear the voice in the JF show coming out soon. Dennis Cimino found out she had a Langley phone number. They rely on our stupidity. Allan Powell

Basic cultural conflict is simple: Christian truth vs. Jew lies....

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Basic Conflict Is Truth Vs. Lies
(Apollonian, 9 Dec 15)

What?--if u really understood Christianity as u pretend, u'd know it's all, ultimately matter of Christian truth vs. satanic lies, satanists always led by Jews, Jews foremost liars (Gosp. JOHN 8:44), foremost subjectivists, most collectivist and organized.

Thus as truth is necessarily founded on objective (Aristotelian), God-given, reality, lies are founded on non-objectivity, thus subjectivism, basis of non-existent, hereticalist "good-evil" delusion.

Further, the circumstances are CYCLIC history founded upon objective, determinist reality, West now in Spenglerian "Decline," the society over-populated w. subjectivists, manipulated by satanists (extreme subjectivists) led by Jews.

Specific, primary, practical tool of the Jews and satanists is central-banking; hence then real money must be commodity, gold/silver, and US Constitution must be applied, esp. in way of nullification and states-rights. It really looks like secession is going to be necessary.

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JEANNON December 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM

All I learned for sure from Chesley is that Farook and wife were real people and were really married and that one or both of them had family members who hired him. His reference to where he got the information about the bodies being in the back seat of an SUV was extremely vague, so he is operating on very shaky evendence sources too.

We need a “book” NOW about San Bernadino in the exact vein of the Nobody Died at Sandy Hook book. Needed NOW… all in one place, documented as much as possible…updated day by day. That this documentation and exposure of what makes SB a fraud be done NOW is important as it coulp stop usefulness of this event from the beginning and would disable their weapon before it is fired.

All the good doses of SB truth are diluted because they are scattered all over the web from hundreds of writers and commenters. Rapid fire exposure needs to happen just as the rapid fire perpetration of these false events is being inflicted on us. We do not have three years to wait for the book.

Bennett was correct in saying we have to look at how this SB event plays in with our foreign policy and what is playing out in Syria and the Middle East. When you look at SB event in those larger terms, the discussion of gun control, though important and true, pales in importance compared to the possibility of a nuclear war that could be tripped off any minute.
Dr. Kevin MacDonald, John Friend, Tim Murdock on Red Ice Radio very good in getting full big picture context to view San Bernadino event. Hour 1 may be on YT.

When they are pulling off-the-shelf, ready to go, one false event after another, I get really vexed when I hear one word mentioned about political races or candidates. That has no meaning for any of us now. There is one entity, call it “the hidden hand” or “the brotherhood of darkness or whatever, that is running the whole show and no political party or candidate can change that reality.

Stay focused on exposing on the record as surely as we can each day on the false event du jour.

That photo of that handcuffed body on the pavement, begs many questions. It is female in a hijab. All the false looking things about that photo needs to exposed all in one place now.

Certain alternative Internet radio networks operate within a ruling establishment alternative philosophy or interpretation of false events. The show hosts are on an ever tightened leash as to what they can and cannot say and who they can have as guests. Any discussion of ALL alternative hypotheses must stop. If I am correct that there is an alternative network ruling philosophy adhered to, then I wonder how long Dr. Barrett will be allowed to stay on NoLies Radio and keep exposing how Muslims are being used in all of these false events.

Dr. Barrett also points out Saudi Arabia’s close connection to Israel. The Wahabis are a subset or branch of the dominant Sunni Saudi sect and the Wahabis are thought to be fascistic or “NAZI-like” in brutal extreme behavior, so you have US/Israel/Saudi Arabia/Turkey all acting like fascist “NAZIs.” That puzzle picture is not meant to be put together.

A network’s take on 9-11 determines their take on Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook determines their take on San Bernadino… you get the idea. “Muslims all bad” appears to be shaping up as establishment alternative philosophy these days for many “alternative” networks. Even when it appears that hosts and guests are having discussions far outside that network’s philosophy, that is becoming more tightly controlled every day. SB event seems to be a major fault line or split happening now in alternative truth seeking.

"Godsend": typical liar for Jews, playing "good-Jew, bad-Jew" game, like there are "good" psychopaths....

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Godsend Is Dis-Info, Pretending There Are "Good Psychopaths"
(Apollonian, 8 Dec 15)

Well yes, much of what u say (see below-copied) is true and necessary, but u notoriously promote the anti-Christ "good-Jew" delusion, and u're thus no better than the criminals and frauds u denounce. U're actually just "limited-hangout" for Jew criminals no less than Alex Jones (InfoWars.com).

For Christ = TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) against Jew lies (JOHN 8:44), and u pretend there are "good Jews" like there are good psychopaths and good Christ-killers--as if there are Jews who are essentially diff. fm "zionists."

But all Jews are, by definition, Talmudists or like-wise advocates of Talmudic-style "midrash" (interpretation) of original Torah (Mosaic) law, condemned and repudiated by Christ (Gosp. MATT 15:2-9). See Talmudical.BlogSpot.com and RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, also Come-and-hear.com for best expo on Talmud and midrash.

So first thing must be repudiation of the central-banking legalized COUNTERFEITING instrument which these satanists impose and use against the people. And states must exert states-rights and nullify un-Constitutional laws.

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GodSend December 8, 2015 at 7:21 PM

Donald Trump is just another Israel-FIRST, Zionist SLIMEBALL, like ALL other presidential candidates of both major parties! Then he promotes the WAR OF CIVILIZATIONS between Christians and Muslims, conjured up (like 911, 311 and the WAR OF TERROR) by Israeli Zionist SLIMEBALLS. America needs a president who will NUKE Zionist Israel as payback for a whole ****load of ZIONIST CRIMES, including the USS Liberty attack, the JFK assassination, the Forrestal "suiciding", the Wellstone "accidenting", to mention just a few. THEY are also behind all the "mass shooting" HOAXES, GUN CONTROL efforts, INVASION by ILLEGAL ALIENS and the (imminent) destruction of the American economy (Greenspan,Bernanke and all the other Federal Reserve and Wall Street BANKSTER CRIMINALS). The ONLY solution to America's problems is to "HANG 'EM HIGH!" (including ALL the CONgress Critter TRAITORS for the 911 Cover-Up).

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GodSend December 9, 2015 at 8:54 AM

"I know the blasphemy of THEM which say THEY are Jews and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan!" (Revelation 2:9). Israeli Zionists are SATANISTS (aka Luciferians) - NOT Jews!

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"Godsend": Liar For Jew Satanists
(Apollonian, 9 Dec 15)

Note the quotation cited by "Godsend" merely refers to the equivocation problem regarding Jews and Judeans, FOR THEY'RE NOT NOT NOT SAME. "Jew" is defined as follower of Pharisees/Talmud/Midrash according to Oral Law Tradition (Gosp. MATT 15:2-9).

Most Judeans at time of Christ were NOT NOT NOT "Jews," Jews only making up about 5%, the middle-class.

What the above quotation fm Revelations refers to is JUDEAN, not "Jew." For one could be Jew by conversion to Talmudic midrash and Oral Law Tradition but NOT be Judean, and this is the confusion which "Godsend," the liar and shill for Jews, is referring to.

All Jews are satanists, by definition; just ck the references given. "Godsend" is a Jewwy liar who lies for his masters, Jews to whom he wants to suck-up, the scummy fool, lying for them, sowing dis-info and confusion.

"Josie" well demonstrates the nature of the enemy, the sort over-populating the present culture in Spenglerian "Decline"....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://bellofliberty.blogspot.com/20...guns-into.html

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Josie Provides Fair Warning For "Emoting" Basis Of Fascist Problem
(Apollonian, 6 Dec 15)

Well, u know, to really make any sense of this topic, I had to go back, referring to the original article by "Josie," ho ho ho ho, who isn't interested in reality, just EMOTING, pretending that's the thing to be done, and basis upon which to passing laws.

So that's real issue, what's proper basis for law, and obvious answer should be reality, logic, science, reason, etc.

But of course, "Josie" thinks ("feels," ho ho ho) emoting w. her should be proper basis--what a narcissist, eh? And so now we see what these people are really all about--irrationality for its own sake, "emoting" w. Josie, ho ho ho

Otherwise, Josie wants to set herself up as example for "emoting" as basis for our agreeing we should do away w. second amendment. But if it's just "emoting" in general, then it could go any way--I'd like to stomp her guts out, to be honest. So "emoting" might not be good for Josie.

So Josie is thus exposed for the irrational, suicidal hysteric she is, and I hope people don't follow her example. It is interesting though, that there are lots of people like Josie who, through emoting, like Josie's, want to do away w. second amendment, so we can be informed by taking due note.

Here's interesting dialectic w. psycho subjectivist ("neuro-scientist") on sense-perception and how it works....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015...l#comment-form

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Reason, Senses Are Two Separate Things
(Apollonian, 7 Dec 15)

Stevie, psycho schizoid moron and "neuro-scientist," I doubt u actually work in any legitimate business, psychotic schizoid liar, shill, and moron as u are.

But u need to figure-out u have (a) the mind/intellect/consciousness/reason which integrates (b) the material provided by the senses.

The senses are organs which function automatically. Perceptions then are formed in accord w. the mental programming and handling of the sense material.

But the senses act in automatic, reflexive manner, necessarily in accord w. stimuli of events of reality, obviously, PERIOD.

Only the mind can fool itself--which is what's happening w. u, sucker, psycho schizoid shill and liar for ZOG and Obola, ho ho ho ho

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Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:08 PM

The longer you go after being clearly refuted like this, the more of ****tard you look like to you "fans".

Your eyes tell your brain that the picture is moving.

Nothing is moving.

The illusion fooled your EYES.

(drops mic...)

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 9:10 PM

(a) Only the mind can fool itself.

(b) The senses CANNOT be fooled, anymore than hair can be fooled, or a leg or arm, or knee, or elbow can be fooled--it isn't the body's function to be fooled or not, ONLY the mind/reason/intellect.

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Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:16 PM

I mean apply it to the illusion above considering the literature I cited.

Explain why the illusion above induces motion perception considering retinal lateral inhibition. Pretty simple question!

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 9:23 PM

U haven't demonstrated the truth of the "...illusion above induces motion perception considering retinal lateral inhibition."

For ur quoted sentence here MAKES NO SENSE. An "illusion" cannot "induce motion perception."

Stevie: u gotta realize u're sadly deluded and probably to pt. of serious psychosis. U're un-questionably schizoid as I noted, not capable of relating abstractions w. perceptions/concretes--as we observed back when u obsessively asked about "consent" being given by the people to "conspirators," u not saying what particular conspiracy u were talking about, ho ho ho ho

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Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:29 PM

I wanna give you a hug! You look like such an ass hole! I'm so vicariously embarrassed for you.

Anyone reading this knows that you don't know anything about neuroscience or perception...but you keep insisting that you do!

Even YOU know you're trying to pull all of this out of your ass. I just want to see how sick you are at this point.

So you're saying that you looked at the grid and saw no illusory motion? Is that right?

If you have human eyes, you saw the illusory motion. It's too low in the visual system not to.

Don't forget: you can't BS me - this is my area of study. And for some unknown reason, you picked a fight with me in it.

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 9:38 PM

Stevie: "whom the gods would destroy, first they are rendered mad"--as w. hubris. And stevie, my boy, u are quite psychotic, and demonstrated, proven schizoid, as we've seen over and over.

I simply refer back to my note given above at December 7, 2015 at 9:10 PM, ho ho ho ho ho

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 9:48 PM

Ho ho ho ho--a PERFECT example of the psycho creating his own little reality, ho ho ho ho ho:

Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:44 PM
"OK. I'll count this as your conceding defeat."

For the honest reader easily observes I made no "concession" whatsoever, ho hoh o ho

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 9:55 PM

Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:44 PM
"And why would I trust your conclusions on anything else?"

Hoho ho ho ho, psycho, a conclusion is evaluated by means of the premises, dumbass--it isn't a matter of "trust," stupid moron scum, ho ho ho ho ho

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Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM

OK, game back on.

Do you refute lateral inhibition in the retina?

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 10:05 PM

I simply refer back to my note given above at December 7, 2015 at 9:10 PM, ho ho ho ho ho

Regarding above, Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM
"Do you refute lateral inhibition in the retina?"

I merely reply it's just psycho-babble, utterly meaningless, OBVIOUSLY, ho ho ho hoo

U need to consider u're now hopelessly obsessively beating a dead-horse, sucker, ho ho ho ho (hint: u've already lost, moron).

At this pt. u're just babbling, fool--u need to getting a clue, ho ho ho ho

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apsterian December 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM

Steve12 December 7, 2015 at 9:58 PM
"And how do refute the links I've provided?"

NEWSFLASH: I never bothered to read them or even clk on them, moron, ho ho ho ho ho--u have to respond to my arguments without spamming stupid, irrelevant crap, dumbass, psycho schizoid "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho

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MORE AT SITE LINK, GIVEN ABOVE

Ho ho ho ho--Chris Hitchens was no equal of Orwell (Eric A. Blair), Hitchens crass, putrid "anti-theist," Jewwy puke....

Below-copied by ap first published at comments, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsOb4M7-9fU

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Hitchens Was/Is NO Equal Of Orwell
(Apollonian, 3 Dec 15)

One must object to equating Jew filth, Hitchens, w. true artist, patriot, and hero, Orwell (Eric A. Blair--see wikipedia). For the disgusting, repelling, and putrid thing about Hitchens was his Jew-friendly and satanic anti-Christianity and tacit defense of Judaism-satanism, all this satanism masked and excused by the typical, puerile "atheism" (or anti-theism of Hitchens) which atheism cannot be proven or defended, which then amounts to a kind of lie (gross delusion at best)--but it's always typical of half-baked "intellectual"-styled charlatans like Powell, Hitchens, and Fetzer.

For Orwell was intellect enough to grasp the under-lying cultural SUBJECTIVISM (satanism) serving as predicate and pretext for dictatorship and totalitarianism, which extreme subjectivism and satanism was always staunchly opposed by the previous traditional Christianity and its worship of truth (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) above all/any other precept, and implicit objective reality necessarily under-lying such truth--which Hitchens could never figure-out, Jew-friendly and Jewwy scum as he was.

Being a scummy, filthy kike is sad business--which Hitchens himself actually suspected before he found out for sure, evidently.