Below-copied dialectic first recorded at comments, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIUDZDTPKfw
Another good militarist-oriented dialectic on Christianity and relation w. "church"
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Apollonius
Sep 1, 2015
+saint
strawman What u're not considering is the very root core of satanism--the HUBRIS
of making oneself God which the "Vatican" at least denies, but WHAT exactly is
that hubris?--it is extreme subjectivism, the idea there is no objective
reality, the only "reality" being that which issues fm one's own
consciousness/mentality. And extreme subjectivism, denial of objectivity is
essence of Judaism which controls the currency, literally issuing all the
currency, the "banking" system controlled by Jews. "Vatican" is mere
tool/instrument of these Jews. "Vatican" at least pretends to uphold Christ (=
truth, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) against lies (JOHN 8:44), such truth (= Christ)
necessarily founded on objective reality as premise/criterion. Ck out the Jew
Talmud at Talmudical.BlogSpot.com and
Come-and-hear.com
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saint
strawman
Sep 1, 2015
+Geo Musicman Roman Catholicism is not
Christianity, it's the Beast Power of Antichrist described in detail in
Revelation 17. Everything evil can be traced directly back to the Vatican; The
Sicilian mafia, the Jesuit Order, the Illuminati, the Frankfurt communist party,
everything. Think about it, Revelation describes a power that arises out of the
ashes of Rome, prostitutes the church with paganism, wears scarlet & purple,
holds a golden chalice, is adorned in precious stone, is both political and
religious, is small but exceedingly powerful, & eventually engulfs the
entire planet. Can you think of anything?
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Apollonian
Apollonius
Sep 2, 2015
+saint strawman Christianity is worship of
truth (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), the only way to Godly happiness, scum--that's all there
is to it--against Jew lies (JOHN 8:44), Christ implicitly endorsing the
Aristotelian objective reality, necessary basis/criterion to truth AGAINST Jew
lies founded upon subjectivism wherein anything goes long as it serves Jews. For
Satanism is extreme subjectivism which denies the objective reality, reality
merely what proceeds fm mentality/consciousness, making oneself God. Jews then
are FOREMOST Satanists (see Talmudical.BlogSpot.com) as they're most organized,
"connected," enabled thus to dominating far greater numbers of more
dis-organized Satanists among gentiles. Get this information into ur head, scum,
and make sure u understand it
saint strawman
Sep 2,
2015
+Geo Musicman So worshipping Ashura in the form of Mary, assigning
positions of demonic Roman pagan deities to saints, calling priests father as
Jesus specifically said not to, pronouncing anathema on anybody who denies mass
to be literal vampirism & cannibalism, calling a satanic Jesuit mobster pope
who flashes Baphomet hand signs in plain view the vicar of Christ (biblical
definition of blasphemy), idolizing man-made objects, praying with pagan beads,
deifying humans, having pedophile sex rituals, creating the Illuminati, creating
Nazism, creating the M.A.F.I.A, being the most powerful organization in Satan's
world, and fitting the exact biblical description of the Great Harlot of
Babylon, that's no problem at all. I guess Grand Master Freemansons & KKK
wizards are also true Christians.
The Catholic church started with
Constantine making Christianity the dominant religion, then the occult having to
hide their paganism under a Christian guise. You realize, Halloween & Mardi
Gras are Catholic holidays, right? It's so obvious it's hidden in plain sight.
Apollonian Apollonius
Sep 2, 2015
+saint strawman When
nothing else works, just like a kike, tell lies, eh straw-brains? Ho ho ho. But
as long as any church keeps New Test. as canon literature, there couldn't be any
problem, Christianity being worship of TRUTH (= Christ) against Jew lies (JOHN
8:44), stupid punk. Christianity is anti-semitism, anti-Satanism. "It's Jews,
stupid."
Apollonian Apollonius
Yesterday 4:15 AM
+Geo
Musicman I followed ur earlier posting of 7:06pm yest., and I gotta say, Christ
was not Jew, which is defined as follower of Talmud/Pharisees (see
Talmudical.BlogSpot.com), but was descended fm Judeans, most of whom did not
follow Pharisees but were descended fm Israelites. There's slight problem in
translation for meanings of Jew and Judean which can be conflated.
Luther
was no "traitor," but was true Christian who explained simple truth that New
Test. was sufficient unto itself for the Christian. And Christianity IS NOT
mumbo jumbo as u seem to think; at root it's simply worship of TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN
14:6), and it opposes Jew lies (JOHN 8:44)--this is KEY. For Christ upholds
objective reality (God-created), basis for truth, while Jews insist there is no
objective truth, only what they say, subjectivism, by which subjectivism they
make themselves, collectivistically, God--Satanism.
saint
strawman
Yesterday 8:01 AM
+Apollonian Apollonius You would have made
a proper Hitler youth, satanic weirdo.
Apollonian
Apollonius
Yesterday 10:15 AM
+saint strawman U piece-of-****, Jewwy
filth, maybe u're right--AS IF there's something wrong w. dear, heroic unc'
Adolf, eh?--who fought kikes. Ho ho ho ho. But it only goes to show the real and
only successful anti-Semitism is good old Christianity. And what's "satanic," u
scummy puke?--it's extreme subjectivism by which one denies objective reality
and makes oneself God, one's own mentality then the source of all/any
reality--did u know that's exactly what kikes do?--stupid punk. Regarding
"refutation" of ur "argument," it's only necessary to note u merely assert,
giving no references. Christianity BEGINS as worship of truth, hence upholding
the objective reality, AGAINST satanism and subjectivism, Jews the leaders.
Geo Musicman
Yesterday 7:34 PM
+Apollonian Apollonius
Jesus was a member of the Judaic peoples of Israel, very likely an Essene. So he
was a Jew, just not as we know them today, before Christianity there was no
Talmud therefore no Judaism.
Luther was a priest, a friar to be precise, who
revolted against his Church and sought to divide it from his personal reasons
and for his own gains. If that's not a traitor I don't know what is. If someone
is a true Christian and doesn't agree with certain practices then he should try
to work them out within his church, he doesn't attempt to destroy it from
within. He had a different agenda, but the protestants don't want to know
this.
Apollonius
Yesterday 7:49 PM
+Geo Musicman Bro., now
u get a stupid as St. Strawman: u just assert like a moron, asking people to
accept ur moronic lies. Jew is NOT NOT NOT same as Judean; see
Talmudical.BlogSpot.com. Even Judeans are NOT NOT NOT NOT same as Israelites.
Christ was NOT NOT NOT "Jew," Jew diff. fm Judean, Jew defined as follower of
Pharisees which sect existed fm at least 2nd or 3rd cent. BC which later wrote
Talmud, but which followed "Traditions of Elders," which is quoted in the New
Test. See Gosp. MATT 15:7. Original text, written in Greek, later in Latin, was
equivocal, not distinguishing btwn Jew or Judean.
And St. Martin Luther
was hero against the satanic "church" of the time which preached Pelagian
heresy, for one thing (see Luther's debate against Erasmus), Luther encouraging
people to read New Test. for themselves. Christianity does not need
"church"--"church" is defense mechanism against satanists and lying dupes like
urself. Christianity is worship of TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6)--it's not mysticism,
doesn't need church, and it isn't mumbo-jumbo as u imagine. Cut the crap,
sucker.
Geo Musicman
Yesterday 8:22 PM
Well, I see, you
seem to be just another red neck pseudo Christian unknowingly playing the game
of divide and conquer by the Jews. You are a tool but can't see it, at least the
other guy knows who he is. Nothing more sad than a useful idiot. Listen son,
there's been a war going on since the crucifixion of Christ and we Christians
ain't winning ad if you believe that by individualism like your idol Luther this
is going to be changed, you'll forever be under the money men's thumb. The
orginised church was and still is a necessity to protect ourselves and the good
people from the Satanists, if you don't understand this good luck then, you're
gonna need it. I know where I'm standing, I don't think you do.
By the
way, Luther was not about anti corruption in the church, he was a liar, look how
he was friendly to the jews as they criticised the catholic church but turned
nasty when he left and expected the jews to join his new branch of
Christianity...He begrudged his partners in crime wouldn't join convert and
wrote some anti jewish texts.
Apollonian Apollonius
Yesterday 8:36
PM
+Geo Musicman U babble, but can't define ur terms. Christianity is
worship of TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), the only way to Godly happiness, yes or
no?--what is a "church" needed for, but for military purposes against organized,
insurgent satanism?
Geo Musicman
Yesterday 9:10
PM
Spiritual enlightment by the word of God and through the prophets is
necessary but only one thing, then it's the need to ensure good and godliness
wins in this world, for this you must have organised religion. Individualistic
endevours are fruitless when it comes to fighting evil on this planet, this is
what Protestantism falls short in, it's weak against Judaism and Islam, it
doesn't have doctrine as they have. It's thanks to this that Christianity is
dying in the west, the only places where Christianity is still strong and
relevant, and where Judaism and/or Islam have not penetrated are Catholic
countries. Spain was able to fight off the muslim arabs after centuries of
occupation was because it was a Catholic nation. Had it been Protestant it would
be an Islamic state, America is becoming atheistic anti Christian just as the
jews have planned. So, if Protestantism has been over time so strategically
beneficial to the jewish plans you need to wonder why this is. It's been long
coming and now it's in your face.
Apollonian Apollonius
Yesterday
9:18 PM
+Geo Musicman This is just a string of balderdash and brainless
mumbo-jumbo, un-substantiated assertions and lies--or at least moronic
inaccuracies, not even worthy of response. Christianity is worship of TRUTH (=
Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6), the only way to Godly happiness, regardless of any
church, period, Q.E.D. Church is military org. against organized satanism, above
and beyond the basic thing which only requires reading the New Test. And there
is no "good-evil," which is Pelagian heresy, obviously.
Geo
Musicman
Yesterday 9:24 PM
No good evil uh? Again that's new age crap
made up by your jewish masters. You're just another troll, nice try Judah. Now
**** off.
Apollonian Apollonius
Yesterday 9:27 PM
+Geo
Musicman Shows what u know about Christianity, ignorant scum--WE'RE ALL SINNERS,
ignorant moron--always have been, always will be. That's Pelagian heresy u're
pushing, brainless scum. Only God has perfectly "free" will, moron--humans are
sinners, following their interests, dumbass fool. Ho ho ho ho
And again,
it's Christian truth (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) founded in objective reality, vs. Jew
lies founded upon subjectivism (JOHN 8:44). It's Jews who pretend they're God w.
perfectly "free" will, so "intelligent," etc., stupid scum--u're the Pharisaic
who asserts not only without substantiation, but actually against explicit text
of New Test
Geo Musicman
Yesterday 10:04 PM
I'm not
interested in talking with a jewish tool. I've written extensibly here so you
could take some inkling and do some research but what you've done is to misquote
the scriptures like the moronic drone you are. If you can't see that your
Protestantism is a jewish construct to destroy Christianity there's nothing
anyone can do for you.
I said **** off before and I say it again, ****
off.
Apollonian Apollonius
Yesterday 10:15 PM
+Geo Musicman
Righto, lying scum--u're the Pharisaic, pretending to "good-evil" sanctimony,
brainless scum. And Christianity is not rocket-science, fool--u don't need a
church to understand the basic thing which u can simply read about in New Test.
lit. as Luther noted. The "church" is simply a further tool by which to dealing
w. organized satanism built upon SUBJECTIVISM which is what u invoke, Jewwy scum
as u obviously are, pretending to "good-evil" Pharisaism, as anyone can see. Ho
ho ho ho
Geo Musicman
Yesterday 10:32 PM
Hopeless. Keep up
the good work you do for the ones you pretend to oppose, the Jews. Luther was a
Jewish pawn and so are you. Goodbye maggot.
Apollonian
Apollonius
Yesterday 10:46 PM
+Geo Musicman Didn't u already say
goodbye, u stupid scum?--and didn't u already talk the same stupid lies,
dumbass? ho ho ho ho. Question is what's a Jew?--Jew is Pharisaic, right?--by
definition, right?--and who's Pharisaic btwn two of us, u babbling ur stupid
b.s. about "good-evil"?--stupid moron. So if a satanist is extreme subjectivist,
by definition, what's more subjectivistic than Pelagianism and Pharisaic
sanctimony as u push, stupid ass? Ho ho ho ho ho
saint
strawman
5:56 AM
+Apollonian Apollonius Talmud Pharisaism is to
Judaism as Roman Catholic dogmas are to Christianity. Not the real thing.
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Apollonian said:
+saint
strawman AGAIN, u just assert, giving NO substantiation whatever, whereas I've
continuously given full, sufficient, decisive reference. Judaism = Talmudism =
Pharisaism. The only slight and insignificant exception is "Reform Judaism"
which merely pretends to slightly diff. "midrash" (interpretation) than
Talmud.
Christianity is simply worship of truth, hence the implicit
objective reality, according to Gosp. JOHN 14:6--against satanic lies (JOHN
8:44) and subjectivism, satanists always led by Jews, foremost liars. Satanism
is making oneself God, HUBRIS, extreme subjectivism.
When things seem
prosperous and satanism is in abeyance, then Christianity atomizes, the various
individual and specific formats and expressions continuously drifting apart for
unity--which unity doesn't seem militarily necessary. But when satanism becomes
assertive and rampant, as we see evermore, then the church must coalesce, and
first enemies to be dealt with are the Jew-friendly and -sympathetic
hereticalists, like "Judeo-Christianity" and/or "Christian-zionism" (see
Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo) which has captured all establishment
churches, esp. in notorious expressions of Charles Hagee, Pat Robertson, et
al.--but all establishment churches have fallen under at least passive sway of
satanism (subjectivism).
saint strawman
6:52 AM
+Apollonian
Apollonius It's quite simple really, the Torah is about as pertinent to the
Talmud as it is to the Quran. Next you'll be telling me the Babylonian Captivity
was Israel going back to the fatherland. Or that the Golden Calf was actually
Jehovah.
Apollonian said:
+saint strawman I report what can be
verified according to sources, which I gave several, numerous times. U NEVER
give any sources or substantiation, merely asserting like a moron--as anyone can
see by ur posts and notes.
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